Former Navy SEAL and best-selling author Leif Babin will be on the show War Stories with Oliver North on Fox News at 10 p.m. EST. Jocko Willink: [00:50:57] Yeah, that's a challenge, and again, this is the dichotomy. And it's the same thing you do as a leader, as a leader, you step up in front of a group of people and you're going to pass a message. Thank you for your support! I especially wanted to bring attention to that insane shootout on that cursed rooftop. It also is involved in direct action and special reconnaissance work against high-value targets. We know that that information is common knowledge and then every single person that has any interest whatsoever can Google that and find it out in 30 seconds. But if you want to us to pull it out of the book, that's fine. Towards the end of the book, there's a time where you and Chris Kyle, are on some sort of mission in Ramadi and there's like insurgent kid. 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It's fast, it's effective, all in one task management and 88 percent of Glip users are more informed about their organization's projects. I look at things I didn't want to do when I was a kid and even in my -- and I say even in my 20s and early 30s, and I just think, What was I thinking? I would never do that stuff now. So I had to build that relationship. And that's mostly what it is, some little item that we know for a fact is, I mean we could literally Google the things that were removed from the book, which is again, it's really minor, removed from the book and I could say, Oh, this got removed from the book. I'm not going to do that because--. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Jason DeFillippo: [00:18:38] You're listening to the Jordan Harbinger Show with our guests, Jocko Willink. In the meantime, do your best to apply what you hear on the show so you can live what you listen, and we'll see you next time. Jocko Willink: [00:45:05] Yeah, that's a classic example that we would do when I was running the training, the advanced training for the SEALs is if they had a really effective leader and we'd watched, you'd see an effective leader and it's very obvious to see every call is made by him, every direction is given from him. Jordan Harbinger: [00:57:13] Yeah, yeah. Big Walt is Big Walt, never going to die. Im going to help them. WHERE CERTAIN STATE LAWS DO NOT ALLOW CERTAIN OF THE EXCLUSIONS, LIMITATIONS, OR DISCLAIMERS OF LIABILITY SET FORTH IN THESE TERMS OF USE, SUCH EXCLUSIONS, LIMITATIONS OR DISCLAIMERS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU. User-Generated Content may also not advocate or encourage conduct that could constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise violate any applicable local, state, national, or foreign law or regulation; or advertise or otherwise solicit funds or act as a solicitation for goods or services. Just ick. And so then he thinks I'm going to, just just kill him, crucify him, fire him or whatever. It's really -- had a huge impact on my life as well, both in business and otherwise. No waiver of any breach of any provision of these Terms of Use shall constitute a waiver of any prior, concurrent, or subsequent breach of the same or any other provisions hereof, and no waiver shall be effective unless made in writing and signed by an authorized representative of the waiving party. Why is it falling through the cracks? Required fields are marked *. The title, by the way, The Dichotomy of Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win. Besides that its just such a fascinating story with crazy twists - like the weird circumstances that some of them died in. YOU AGREE THAT YOUR ACCESS TO AND USE OF THE WEBSITE AND ANY CONTENT HEREIN IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. That's one of the things that -- and also the enemy can be anywhere around you, and that's another thing that makes urban combat very challenging is you have to react to things very, very quickly because you won't see someone until you turn the corner, whereas in the desert you can see someone a little further out. Jordan Harbinger: [01:10:40] How quickly do people usually adapt to that combat mindset? What happens if somebody loses a radio? And a lot of times in the SEAL teams, there is a tactical decision that's being made by the person that's in the situation. Skip all the meal planning, skip the shopping, get straight to the cooking with Blue Apron. And the example in the book is Big Walt, super effective leader. Jordan Harbinger: [00:02:14] Or just like the idea that I could go and do something, and there'd be probably no consequences that I would actually have to pay for that. If conducted in person, the arbitration shall take place in San Jose, California. Jocko Willink: [00:43:44] yeah, I know, and of course, we try and prevent it. The ship I was on happened to be in the Port of San Diego California when the Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Zumwalt held a open meeting for the To learn more about our sponsors and get links to all the great discounts you just heard, visit jordanharbinger.com/advertisers. In April 2006 he deployed to Ramadi, Al Anbar, Iraq as a. Next one we're going to crush them. They're going to get crushed. London Real is a personality driven interview series that Rose began in 2011, which profiles individuals and personalities from a range of backgrounds. So that's a good attitude to have and it's a good attitude to always think, I need to stay humble, but -- and this is the dichotomy. Jocko Willink: [00:40:19] The problems that people have is being overwhelmed in pressure situations, that's the biggest problem. Jordan Harbinger LLC I'm a good person. I think a lot of folks don't realize, and I know this just from entrepreneurship or small business ownership, which is a term I prefer because entrepreneurs, word that's been beaten to death. If you believe that anything on the Website or Service infringes upon any copyright that you own or control, you may file a notification of such infringement with our Designated Agent as set forth below. I mean almost miniscule, probably even take a half an hour because we know what's classified and what's not. Jocko Willink: [00:30:48] It was actually a Mad Max quote. If I can do everything that I'm supposed to do and I can still survive and still do a good job, well then guess what? Jocko Willink: [00:14:39] Yeah, well it was my first deployment to Iraq, so it was my first time being in any combat situation. Its the will, the will to kill, says Jocko Willink, a retired Navy Seal officer, during an interview with Brian By But with the patches it was an example of where I allowed slack and that's an example of where you want to put your leadership capital and that's kind of what the definition, or that's kind of what the meaning of it is. One concept that I thought was super useful in a business world is that everyone has to lead, and we kind of touched on this earlier, but a team can be really hamstrung if the performance relies really on one or two leaders. Go to jordanharbinger.com/alexa, or search for Jordan Harbinger in the Alexa App. Maybe I just don't want to do that. Whereas before, if someone's like, Hey, we're going to move you to Russia, you're going to live in Moscow and you have to work at this random job. It had been like, Yes, I have to learn Russian. You tell me to something to do something that's going to get one of my guys hurt or killed, or you tell me something that's going to lose the my branch a bunch of money, and now I'm going to stand up. So luckily for us, when I talk about the guys being out in combat daily, but they'd also come back to base. Jocko Willink: [01:04:14] Yeah, I could do that for like 28 minutes, because that's what happens sometimes. This book has great stories that you can really feel. And you tell me to do something that doesn't make much sense. It cannot be mitigated no matter -- the only way to mitigate, completely mitigate all risks from combat is to not engage in it. But can you have someone -- a leader that continues to talk and talks too much, and ends up talking so much that the people in the team don't know what's important and what's not? Military History related links - modern or ancient! Jocko Willink: [01:04:24] And honestly, normally it would get fixed and five minutes or three minutes, but it is a pain, and in those three minutes when that's happening, there might be critical information that needs to get passed over the radio and when there's a hot mic going on, it's not going to get passed. Jordan Harbinger: [00:24:53] Yeah, we'll pump it out. It was like almost a daily scenario where it was gun fights with the enemy. LIMITED LIABILITY. I always feel like, there's something that probably changes when you turn a certain age or maybe when you have kids, which I don't yet, where you go, Yeah, maybe I don't want to live for three years in a South American country anymore. Jordan Harbinger: [00:21:13] Symptoms of micromanagement that you listed in the book, which I thought were really interesting. And that's why humility is so important. Tales of combat Read More, The Hollywood star Clint Eastwood once upon a time was a soldier. Jason DeFillippo: [00:37:24] Oh my God. They don't listen to their subordinates, they don't listen to their peers, they don't listen to their bosses. This typically entails clandestine intelligence gathering ahead of a DEVGRU strike operation. So there's an element of logistics behind publishing, actually a huge element of logistics, which is probably the most challenging thing for publishing company is the logistics behind everything. 3 SEAL (SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team), SDV 3, 10 Task Unit Bruiser NASA 22 SEAL Task Unit Bruiser(3 C D ). There's things that you have to do as a leader to modulate the way you communicate with other people. I just cooked some of the best shrimp. Now the story in the book is about the patches, which is along with wearing mismatched uniforms. Who all was in Task Unit bruiser? Jocko Willink: [01:03:54] Yeah there is a military version of the butt dial. I'm being a little bit facetious here. COMPANY HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES. So if I allow you to continue to not be able to perform your duties, I've got a problem. You might have to give less detail. Probably because Spec Ops red tape. Jocko Willink: [00:02:21] Hmm, sometimes I think I forget about consequences a little bit, but one thing about me is, I've traveled a lot and I don't really love to travel actually. We promise to only send you awesome stuff. Jocko Willink: [00:27:42] The patches and the uniforms and being in good uniform. No, that doesn't make sense. Jordan Harbinger: [00:32:37] Don't wear are the patches. As commander of SEAL Team Three's Task Unit Bruiser during the battle of Ramadi, he orchestrated SEAL operations that helped the "Ready First" The Warning are three young sisters from Mexico trying to win a place in the world of Rock music. Jordan Harbinger: [00:44:06] Yeah, it's kind of like losing your wedding ring or something. It's coming tonight. And when I'd come in and say, Hey, what's your plan look like? And they'd kind of say, Okay, we're going to go in here, we're going to do this. And of course, I'd say, Well, hey, that looks like a good plan, but you missed this piece of high ground over here that if we don't have that, the enemy can get the drop on us and we'll be in a big problem. And they would kind of think, Man, how did we miss that? If I expend a bunch of my leadership capital on things that aren't important, then when it comes time to ask my team to do something that's really important, I might not have enough leadership capital in the bank anymore and they might blow me off, right? YOU ASSUME THE RISK OF ANY AND ALL DAMAGE OR LOSS FROM USE OF, OR INABILITY TO USE, THE WEBSITE OR THE SERVICE. That's how you build up the trust. How do we begin to create that type of relationship? Team Room. What do you want us to do? And because it's going to require, Oh by the way, we're going to have to shut off water. These things are delicious. 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