I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. View more newsletters on our Subscriptions page. The worksheet shows (additionally) Foreign Service Pay of $128.43 for the period 1 Dec 45 to 24 or 26 Jan 46 $7072/month depending on how it was pro-rated. Charles Durning Height, Weight & Measurements At 89 years old, Charles Durning height is 5' 8" (1.73 m) . Every service member leaves the military eventually. The net result was a commercial that was okay. [Ref: http://www.web2carz.com/people/who-you-know/2097/charles-durnings-war-heroism-exaggeration-fabrication]. Charles Durning, Prolific Character Actor, Dies at 89 Columbia Pictures, via Getty Images . Charles Durning is Update Soon years old in 2022. He was the son of Louise (ne Leonard; 18941982), a laundress at West Point, and James E. Durning (1883 c. The two forces converged just before noon at the crossroads hamlet of Baugnez, two and a half miles south of Malmedy. It took Durning 5 years after leaving the military to eventually make his way into acting. But he definitely does not claim to be a Malmedy survivor. Charles Durning is indeed a great actor and served his country honorably during WWII, including his landing at Normandy on D-Day. Drafted at age 21, he was first assigned as a rifleman with the 398th Infantry Regiment, and later served overseas with the 3rd Army Support troops and the 386th Anti-aircraft Artillery (AAA) Battalion. His three brothers James (Roger) (1915-2000), Clifford (1916-1994),and Gerald Durning (born 1926), and his sister Frances (born 1919) survived to . Also, the alleged false statement was the Durning was the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII, which Monkeyzpop disputes. He received two Drama Desk Awards for his performances in That Championship Season and Third. Verify your free subscription by following the instructions in the email sent to: Search the largest free Veteran Job board to find jobs with veteran-friendly companies. But simply because I am interested in the Malmedy massacre for several years, which means I have spend much time on the question and read a lot of books. Durning does not appear in either the muster reports or morning reports of any of the units involved. I've posted on this in the Military History WikiProject in the hope that maybe some better sourcing can be found. I now think that whoever said that was correct. Date of Birth. A Tiger's Tale. I could find no trace of this on the website of the French consulate. Mr. In 1980, he won critical acclaim for his performance as Norman Thayer, Jr. in Los Angeles's Ahmanson Theater's production of On Golden Pond opposite Julie Harris. 1. There are no original sources, official documents or corroborating accounts by those he served with that validate his stories. Of all the thousands of units in the ETO? By the time the 106th was ready to resume combat operations (25 April 45) the war was winding down (VE Day was just two weeks later) and the division was relegated to running POW camps rather than fighting as an infantry division. That at least would acknowledge the elephant in the room. The stockily built Charles Durning was one of Hollywood's most dependable and sought after supporting actors. 4. Languages Editions (L) If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with, If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with, This page was last edited on 22 April 2022, at 10:34. - Mr. During supposedly told a close friend that the reason he was transferred to the Rangers was because he hit an officer, and was therefore given the choice of either Leavenworth or the Rangers. It also states that Durning was drafted in 1943 at the age of nineteens shortly before his twentieth birthday. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. Plus, he has appeared in the role of "Santa Claus" in five different television movies. He noted that 1) It appears Durning did not leave the replacement system till March 44 (well after Malmedy); 2) Durning was nominally assigned to the 159th Inf Regt, then transferred to the 398th Inf Regt when the former was shipped stateside in the Fall of 45; 3)Although he was nominally assigned to those infantry regiments, he actually was on temporary duty with the 20th Special Services Bn (an entertainment unit); and 5) Mr. Karras says he knows for a fact that Arlington has cut a new headstone for Durning which omits the Bronze Star medal and two of his supposed Purple Hearts. Durning, 84, will receive the award for fostering the "finest ideals . Rlevse Talk 03:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC), I realize it's no shame to have post traumatic stress disorder, but I think that any such assertions in an article must be sourced, as per BLP. He doggedly pursues the young grifter, Johnny Hooker (Redford), only to become the griftee in the end. Rlevse Talk 03:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC), i'm confused because it seems that three purple hearts are claimed, but only two instances of being wounded are cited. Sadly, Durning made a number of statements during his lifetime and was present when statements were made about his military service which cannot be reconciled with the undisputed facts in his military records. Co. X176ADec. 18, 1944 - Dec. 31, 1945. Incredibly subjective. So when was he a member of Third Army, during or after the war?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC), It seems to me we should be able to track down (and then link to) Durning's Silver Star citation, which would provide date, circumstances and probably unit of assignment at the time. In March 1945, Durning was moving into Germany with the 398th Infantry Regiment when he took a bullet to the chest. Nothing more. . As you know, that is a critical difference. [18] The Huffington Post compared the two men, calling them "character actor titans".[19]. NEW YORK (Reuters) - Charles Durning, a World War Two hero who became one of Hollywood's top character actors in films like "The Sting," "Tootsie" and "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas," has. Durning married his second wife, Mary Ann Amelio, in 1974. Durning was honored with three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star. On TV, Durning had a recurring role on Everybody Loves Raymond as the Barone family's long-suffering parish priest, Father Hubley. 67.181.14.236 (talk) 09:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC), I've removed this from the article after his admission of nightmares: "which is common among veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress", Unless the person that added this is a medical doctor with Mr. Durning under his care (and has consent to post it to the internet!) I was watching Everwood this evening, and I saw Mr. Durning on it. Stetsonharry (talk) 22:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC), There was some discussion a few months ago about whether or not Durning was a survivor of the Malmedy massacre. He won a Golden Globe in 1990 for his supporting role in the television miniseries The Kennedys of Massachusetts, having had three previous nominations. We don't have to resolve the discrepancies, but we should at least note them. He is not credited for being in Star Wars at IMDB. There are links to articles on the medals with pictures of them there. The Malmedy massacre was a German war crime committed by soldiers of the Waffen-SS on 17 December 1944, at the Baugnez crossroads near the city of Malmedy, Belgium, during the Battle of the Bulge (16 December 1944 - 25 January 1945). 5. Durning passed away on December 24th, 2012 due to natural causes and was buried in Arlington National Cemetary. As pointed out, there is no official record of Mr Durning listed on any roll of a Ranger unit and in my knowledge elements of the Provisional Ranger Force were landed besides the 29th Infantry Division rather than the First Infantry Division. Soldiers of Kampfgruppe Peiper summarily killed eighty In addition to three Purple Heart medals for his wounds, Durning was presented the Silver Star for valor. He was a great character actor, a tremendous military hero, and a really good guy (plus a Democrat) whom I got to spend a day with in 2004. the relation of the facts, how things happened. If such a trivial thing deserves mention (which IMO it doesn't), then you would need to provide a reference that someone else is the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII. Asteriks (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC). Steve Karras - who wrote the web2carz article - joined the discussion and provided additional data from his research. Frankly speaking I have doubts about this. Durning was a great actor. And the Rangers were not a dumping ground for disciplinary problems. Charles is related to William Pershing Durning and Jeff M Durning as well as 1 additional person. He was part of the landing forces at Normandy during the initial invasion of France by Allied forces. Other film credits include Dog Day Afternoon with Al Pacino; When A Stranger Calls; The Final Countdown; The Hindenburg; Twilight's Last Gleaming with Burt Lancaster; True Confessions with Robert De Niro and Robert Duvall. 6. [13] The real truth of the incident only becomes known for certain when the guilt-stricken veteran goes through a cathartic reliving of the battlefield events. Having a successful career in the military is a major accomplishment. He played the role of Jack Jameson in Wendy Wasserstein's final play, Third (2005), with Dianne Wiest at Lincoln Center's Mitzi E. Newhouse Theatre. Charles Durning. My father was a Malmedy survivor and I have done extensive research into the massacre and its aftermath. It's right at the beginning of the movie. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. - According to another source, Durning and 12 others were levied out of C/386 AAA/AW on 23 May 44, just two weeks before D-Day and assigned to the 17th Replacement Depot; he arrived in Normandy still assigned to a detachment of that Depot (as Old bubblehead noted). This is four days after the start of the Battle of the Bulge and three days after the Malmedy Massacre.Oldbubblehead (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC). And then I flash back to Kathy Martin, the Kansas School Board Member in Flock of Dodos, who said shes comfortable believing Washington was our first President because people were there to see that, but not comfortable believing fossils could be millions of years old because nobody was actually alive that saw a lungfish crawl out of the water. As if eye witness accounts were more credible than science. Durning won the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for his powerful performance in The Westwood Playhouse's 1977 production of David Rabe's Streamers. Photograph: NBC via Getty Images. I'd also hope that other identified incorrect entries be removed from the article, such as earning 3 Puprple Hearts (he earned just one); serving with the 1st Division (he did not) and receiving campaign credit for the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes Campaign - which, again, he did not); Oldbubblehead's research has proven those elements invalid. There tends to be a correlation between the quality of character actors and how big of a character they are themselves. Again, am reluctant to cast aspersions, but not many men advertise their valor awards, but refuse to clearly state what units they served in. Although he. I would hope that the editors of this page would at least mention that there is controversy surrounding the many versions of his wartime service and that official records are at odds with many points. I tend to agree with David T Tokyo, but I'd feel better if the declaration appeared in a better source than the one we have, preferably an official one. Over the course of his life, aside from the medals he earned as a soldier, Durning won numerous accolades as an actor including a Life Achievement Award, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 9 Emmy Award nominations, and an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. Mr. Page Views (PV) 55.51. - Are we supposed to believe - as some accounts hold - that after being levied out of the 386th AAA (AW) Bn, after being sent to Normandy as a replacement, after being wounded and after spending five months in a hospital recovering, that Mr. Durning returned back to the very same 386th AAA (AW) Bn he joined in '43? (LOS ANGELES TIMES) Charles Durning, a Tony Award-winning actor whose prolific work in films and television included supporting roles in the classic comedy "Tootsie" and the TV sitcom. One one side they are based on the testimonies made by the American survivors, which must been seen as relations made by guys who had escaped to an almost promissed death, who were under shock, often wounded and who had some difficulties to make a coherent relation of the facts. 159th Regiment. [10] Additional awards included the Army Good Conduct Medal, the American Campaign Medal and the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with Arrowhead device and two bronze service stars, and the World War II Victory Medal. http://nmisscommentor.com/random-firings/charles-durning-obit-in-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-126171. Now, the Early life section has been written in a way that claims Frances is a brother, though the cited source (IMDb) does not specify. Durning began his career in 1951. [1](No mention made of service with an antiaircraft unit), In populating the Infobox, I made the assumption that Frances is Charles' sister because of the spelling of the name (instead of Francis), based on my experience (admittedly OR) and "Frances is a human name, the feminine version of Francis." This may have been a mistake or perhaps not, but it would explain why an actor, in an age sensitive business, would not want to publicize a World War II war record. According to his TV Guide biography, Durning left home at age 16 and later enlisted in the Army.. --65.190.163.190 02:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC). Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor. The inability of anyone, to include his family, to produce these General Orders, or even cite the GO#, must arouse curiosity, to put it mildly. (1970, as Charles Durnham), Sisters (1973), and The Fury (1978). It also shows wounded 29 Jun 44, which is incorrect in comparison with all the med records. In 1999, Durning was inducted into the Theater Hall of Fame on Broadway. There are several paths to success if you're getting out or thinking about getting out of the military after just one tour. He agreed to give us a day, I pulled together an amazing crew of industry veterans (including the very best cameraman I ever got the joy of working with they were all Democrats willing to donate their time for the campaign), we found a location north of L.A., and within a couple days were out there filming. Durning was drafted into the U.S. Army just in time to fight in World War II. That can cause a number of types of confusion. But second, last year I met with Gavan Daws who wrote the definitive book on Japanese Prisoners of War. Where the River Runs Black. This seems even to have publicly said by the French consul in LA during an official ceremony that took place a few years ago. He also played the voice of recurring character Francis Griffin, the religious zealot father of Peter in the animated series Family Guy. My old buddy Dr. Steven Miller (who was my partner in the Shifting Baselines Ocean Media Project and would eventually be executive producer of Flock of Dodos as well as the current Lionfish PSA Campaign), quickly raised the funds for me to write and direct a commercial for the campaign. Copyright 2023 Military.com. discussion above, today's AP story on Mr. Durning's death says he was "captured in the Battle of the Bulge and survived a massacre of prisoners." A few words of respect for Charles Durning who died on Monday at age 89. 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